tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post8824957164705737959..comments2024-03-24T23:57:28.687-07:00Comments on Undercover Black Man: ‘The Wire’ writers rock!Undercover Black Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-86728001551267116622007-12-14T21:44:00.000-08:002007-12-14T21:44:00.000-08:00...oh Mr. Starnes....I can't stay mad at you......oh Mr. Starnes....<BR/><BR/>I can't stay mad at you...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-36973809605298415182007-12-14T17:35:00.000-08:002007-12-14T17:35:00.000-08:00I was actually in the car with David Simon when he...<I>I was actually in the car with David Simon when he got the cell-phone call....</I><BR/><BR/>LOL. A caller to the Brian Lehrer Show brought this up. He said he'd read the anecdote in a magazine (can't remember which).bklyn6https://www.blogger.com/profile/03878143211808703104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-31006229508596774822007-12-14T13:26:00.000-08:002007-12-14T13:26:00.000-08:00^ That's so funny, Bklyn6! I was actually in the c...^ That's so funny, Bklyn6! I was actually in the car with David Simon when he got the cell-phone call from Snoop saying, basically, "What you want me to do?" She had caught somebody selling bootleg "Wire" DVDs on the street, and evidently was holding on to him while seeking instructions from Simon.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for that radio link. I'm gonna post about it.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-51737376517057950762007-12-14T13:12:00.000-08:002007-12-14T13:12:00.000-08:00Congrats on the nomination David. Sorry I can't sa...Congrats on the nomination David. Sorry I can't say I love your work, as I've never seen the show. But, judging by the comments here, I need to check it out.<BR/><BR/>Felicia Pearson (who I'd only heard of for the first time today) was on the Brian Lehrer show today. I haven't listened to the podcast yet, but I believe she was talking about her memoir and connections between her life and her character on the show. The site links to a youtube <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qXFxsXhZW4&eurl=http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2007/12/14" REL="nofollow">video</A> of her talking about what happened when she discovered bootleg copies of The Wire.bklyn6https://www.blogger.com/profile/03878143211808703104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-41082095404096010112007-12-14T13:01:00.000-08:002007-12-14T13:01:00.000-08:00Dave, I think you found your next debate victim.I ...<EM>Dave, I think you found your next debate victim.</EM><BR/><BR/>I would need to 'roid up first, DeAngelo.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of recovery time... that mess with Bro. Nulan interfered with my sleep. I still ain't right.<BR/><BR/>When I come back at you, I want to be well-rested and sharp as a tack.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-37383494590005988192007-12-14T10:03:00.000-08:002007-12-14T10:03:00.000-08:00Congrats...my money is on The Wire.Congrats...my money is on The Wire.Schottzie03https://www.blogger.com/profile/16624465932868582438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-37358796325883997982007-12-14T10:00:00.000-08:002007-12-14T10:00:00.000-08:00^ sub, you're kicking ass.Dave, I think you found ...^ sub, you're kicking ass.<BR/><BR/>Dave, I think you found your next debate victim.<BR/><BR/>And speaking of debate, let's get it on. I'm itching to talk some mo' shit.DeAngelo Starneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18159838580641718119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-61100586692765989782007-12-14T07:49:00.000-08:002007-12-14T07:49:00.000-08:00Fiction matters because it can expand the boundari...Fiction matters because it can expand the boundaries of the human experience and there are certain aspects of humanity that are lost in mere reporting. <A HREF="http://laphamsquarterly.org/radio/show11_lynn_hunt.mp3" REL="nofollow">Lynn Hunt</A> has recently proposed that conception of human rights was critically linked to the popularity of epistolary novels in the 18th century. <BR/><BR/>While in no way morally equivalent, what we ask of the soldier during war time is not markedly different than what the serial killer does of his own volition in civil society. This was skillfully examined in the movie <A HREF="http://www.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/inthevalleyofelah/trailer1a/" REL="nofollow">In the Valley of Elah</A>. <BR/><BR/>What killers, serial and otherwise, do is in no way 'cute'. But there is a compression that takes place when we deal with such abhorrent persons. Shows like Dexter and The Wire tune us into frequencies of existence that are usually beyond our listening range. In the case of Dexter, farce is the vehicle of choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-75665514989727097992007-12-14T07:17:00.000-08:002007-12-14T07:17:00.000-08:00anonymous, please don't let my opinion destroy my ...anonymous, please don't let my opinion destroy my cred. A brotha's just trying to be provocative. <BR/><BR/>On the real tip, The Wire is the shit. It is extremely complex and does an outstanding job weaving various characters' storylines into a singular theme. Seasons Two and Three did this extremely well. And this last season was similarly outstanding.<BR/><BR/>But Dexter's the new kid on the block. <BR/><BR/>And so maybe I fell into that Chris Rock line: "Commitment! Or new pussy?" <BR/><BR/>Dexter's the shit but so is The Wire. And I feel the same way I felt when Oz was the shit until The Sopranos came on board.<BR/><BR/>Both fell off near the end.DeAngelo Starneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18159838580641718119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-23068892330255285492007-12-14T05:12:00.000-08:002007-12-14T05:12:00.000-08:00arriving late to the party...Congratulations. Howe...arriving late to the party...<BR/><BR/>Congratulations. However, I have to go with either my sentimental favorite, The Sopranos, or my newer fav, Mad Men. Mad Men really is a wonderful period piece of the early 1960s. It's stunning to see so many people smoking everywhere all the time, and in particular, to see pregnant women smoking and drinking.<BR/><BR/>Mad Men is on hiatus now but should be back next year. The first season's shows can be watched here: http://www.sidereel.com/_television<BR/><BR/>But again, congrats for The Wire. Always have to support good writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-8117333082138489532007-12-13T21:41:00.000-08:002007-12-13T21:41:00.000-08:00And I agree with doctor memory... what do we have ...<I>And I agree with doctor memory... what do we have to do to get the Emmys to recognize you folks?</I><BR/><BR/>Film the show in Hollywood, unfortunately.<BR/><BR/>Congrats, David and all "Wire" writers! :-) Plus, you really have to check out "Dexter"--it's first-class entertainment and deeper than I think some people are giving it credit for (IMHO).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-21800961768239124372007-12-13T20:26:00.000-08:002007-12-13T20:26:00.000-08:00the WGA eligibility calendar runs from Oct. 1 to S...the WGA eligibility calendar runs from Oct. 1 to Sept. 30.<BR/><BR/>...explains how The Wire was able to get noms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-9208553565404874772007-12-13T20:09:00.000-08:002007-12-13T20:09:00.000-08:00Dexter can't compare to The Wire at all. The Wire ...Dexter can't compare to The Wire at all. The Wire really is in a league of it's own. Dexter is merely entertainment...The Wire is much, much more.<BR/><BR/>But UBM, there are certain themes in the 2nd season (no spoilers here) of Dexter which deal with whether what Dexter is is really evil or not. In any case, it is pure fiction with little basis in reality (Battlestar Galactica is a wonderful show about human emotions and conflict, even though it is sci-fi).SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01245472084190224186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-84966018828235553172007-12-13T19:31:00.000-08:002007-12-13T19:31:00.000-08:00Thanks Wanda... and to all.Thanks Wanda... and to all.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-9568623119577030872007-12-13T19:24:00.000-08:002007-12-13T19:24:00.000-08:00well congratulations anyway david. you never know,...well congratulations anyway david. you never know, their might be an upset! :)dubbleuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00580845769885017143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-45060424003959856622007-12-13T18:16:00.000-08:002007-12-13T18:16:00.000-08:00Submariner wrote: "I say it's because both shows a...Submariner wrote: <EM>"I say it's because both shows affirm the humanity of elements in society that are typically dismissed as unworthy of our sympathies."</EM><BR/><BR/>Well, see... I need to tread lightly, never having sat and watched "Dexter," BUT...<BR/><BR/>Part of what turned me off to the whole premise was this idea of "humanizing" a serial killer. Having read about actual serial killers, I know that these are true monsters. If there's anybody I would write out of the human race, it's this particular type of compulsive, soulless, vicious thief of life.<BR/><BR/>I don't think (and this may be an unfair assumption) that this show is interested in exploring the reality of evil. Like some of y'all say, it's an entertainment.<BR/><BR/>Read about <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_John_Schaefer" REL="nofollow">G.J. Schaefer</A> if you think the idea of a cop/serial killer is cute.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-45323047092040941682007-12-13T18:08:00.000-08:002007-12-13T18:08:00.000-08:00Mr. Starnes. Nothing edges The Wire. You need to t...<EM>Mr. Starnes. Nothing edges The Wire. You need to take that back.</EM><BR/><BR/>Uh-oh, DeAngelo... you done stepped on a land mine. I coulda warned you... ;^)Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-32596253772220896462007-12-13T17:52:00.000-08:002007-12-13T17:52:00.000-08:00PS - how did these nominations come about? The Wi...PS - how did these nominations come about? The Wire didn't air any episodes in 07.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-79170430745666785212007-12-13T17:50:00.000-08:002007-12-13T17:50:00.000-08:00Mr. Starnes.Nothing edges The Wire. You need to t...Mr. Starnes.<BR/><BR/>Nothing edges The Wire. You need to take that back. Dexter is great entertainment, and I enjoy it very much too. But edges The Wire? Damn, makes me really have to question your judgement in all the previous debates with UBM, whether I agreed with you or not.<BR/><BR/>it's a shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-58300114679522628972007-12-13T17:30:00.000-08:002007-12-13T17:30:00.000-08:00deep insight, sub. good one.deep insight, sub. good one.DeAngelo Starneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18159838580641718119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-32530661097168303742007-12-13T16:51:00.000-08:002007-12-13T16:51:00.000-08:00Let's take this a bit further. The consensus curre...Let's take this a bit further. The consensus currently seems to be that Dexter and The Wire stand out. Why is that? <BR/><BR/>I say it's because both shows affirm the humanity of elements in society that are typically dismissed as unworthy of our sympathies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-56724966020651177992007-12-13T15:02:00.000-08:002007-12-13T15:02:00.000-08:00Congrats! Love "The Wire." It's my go-to show for ...Congrats! Love "The Wire." <BR/><BR/>It's my go-to show for good storytelling and characterization. <BR/>Can't tell you how much I appreciate what I've learned from it.<BR/><BR/>I hope it wins the WGA award. And I agree with doctor memory... what do we have to do to get the Emmys to recognize you folks?J.K. Mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571812757463322242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-3901936961317048232007-12-13T14:50:00.000-08:002007-12-13T14:50:00.000-08:00Dexter is good, but season 2 was a let-down. Nothi...Dexter is good, but season 2 was a let-down. <BR/><BR/>Nothing beats The Wire imo (though I love The Sopranos and Deadwood).<BR/><BR/>Congrats to all the writers, you guys deserve it.SJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01245472084190224186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-36349971425789180362007-12-13T14:45:00.000-08:002007-12-13T14:45:00.000-08:00^ No insider knowledge, machine. But those season-...^ No insider knowledge, machine. But those season-enders usually run longer than 60 mins. I would definitely expect so for the series finale.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-34654546879000237922007-12-13T14:43:00.000-08:002007-12-13T14:43:00.000-08:00I like the Closer, even if the episodic open and s...I like the Closer, even if the episodic open and shut case does run its course after a while. If it were a level playing field (based on the quality of the writing) the wire would win hands down, but life is rarely like that.<BR/><BR/>can't believe in just over 3 weeks the final season starts, and then in just ten episodes it's all over.<BR/><BR/>Will they all be 1 hour episodes, or will any be extended? (do you have the insider knowledge?)<BR/><BR/>machine levineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com