tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post4505827488046242272..comments2024-03-24T23:57:28.687-07:00Comments on Undercover Black Man: America’s Next Top MulattoUndercover Black Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-12360235478406220072008-03-07T23:26:00.000-08:002008-03-07T23:26:00.000-08:00Procrastinating Redcoat: Of course Leona sounds E...Procrastinating Redcoat: Of course Leona sounds English, she is. In the UK accents are very much about class, no? To me, she doesn't sound, well, classy. It was the combination of her grammar and accent that soured me. I don't mind her singing, but I don't want to hear her talk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-19449355744583116022008-03-07T10:46:00.000-08:002008-03-07T10:46:00.000-08:00Just listening to how Leona spoke, I wonder if she...<EM>Just listening to how Leona spoke, I wonder if she's at all in touch with her black side.</EM><BR/><BR/>Hey GenevaGirl. I must admit, I think Cockney accents are cute. And I liked Leona best when she was speaking.<BR/><BR/>I think Cockney is about as ghetto as you can get in England, by the way.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-76651447431158070682008-03-07T08:38:00.000-08:002008-03-07T08:38:00.000-08:00genevagirl: English girl speaks with English accen...genevagirl: English girl speaks with English accent? Shock horror. <BR/><BR/>You know, many African Americans sound, well, just American to us Brits. Have they lost touch?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-43293989834625417342008-03-07T08:17:00.000-08:002008-03-07T08:17:00.000-08:00How does listening to someone speak make you quest...How does listening to someone speak make you question their cultural connections?<BR/><BR/>Not trying to be argumentative. It's just something I hear people say a lot-- "<I>he/she doesn't sound black</I>" --and it leaves me scratching my head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-18846105603166014672008-03-07T07:22:00.000-08:002008-03-07T07:22:00.000-08:00Back to Leona! I just came back from the newsstan...Back to Leona! I just came back from the newsstand where I saw her on the cover of British Cosmo. Her "exotic" look is quite the rage over here.<BR/><BR/>I've spent a fair amount of time in the UK and observed a number of bi-racial girls who seem not to know their roots. Just listening to how Leona spoke, I wonder if she's at all in touch with her black side. Her grammar could use some help too. <BR/><BR/>Interesting how Simon Cowell wears a suit and tie on his own show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-7418294281808462712008-03-07T05:17:00.000-08:002008-03-07T05:17:00.000-08:00This is completely off topic...but you know the so...This is completely off topic...but you know the song "Last Night A DJ Saved My Life"? Last night your boy Simon saved mine (so to speak).<BR/><BR/>I was trying to navigate the completely pitch black backroads of North Carolina, and didn't have a clue were I was.<BR/><BR/>I was having vivid visions of a noose party at my expense, or something like that (silly city girl).<BR/><BR/>I tried to find something on the radio that wasn't country, religious, or crunk (all of those added to my ill ease)<BR/><BR/>I found your boy on NPR's "Fresh Air". Thank God! :-) He was my lifeline to the real world, and I instantly felt calmer and found my way out eventually.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the long comment, but I'll always appreciate him now. Love his stories, too. :-)Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-28248828570643963262008-03-06T23:03:00.000-08:002008-03-06T23:03:00.000-08:00Here the typo-less version:I think it is time to g...Here the typo-less version:<BR/><BR/>I think it is time to gather all the black bloggers around a statement. Namely this:<BR/><BR/>(1) The Democratic party base has spoken. The numbers show that Mrs. Clinton has lost this race for the nomination.<BR/><BR/>(2) Mrs. Clinton's increasingly shrill attacks against Mr. Obama have taken on the airs of racism.<BR/><BR/>(3) That is regrettable because via the candidacy of Mr. Obama for the first time in the electoral history of this nation, the vast majority of African-American stand united with untold millions of white Americans and Americans of all colors.<BR/><BR/>(4) It appears that Mrs. Clinton is about to shatter this historic unity.<BR/><BR/>(5) We therefore call on Mrs. Clinton to face the reality of the numbers, concede defeat and thereby heal this wound which she has opened and continues to widen.<BR/><BR/>(6) It is clear that Mrs. Clinton can not be considered for the Vice-Presidential slot on the Democratic ticket. Mrs. Clinton has denigrated Mr. Obama to the point that any possible praise she would heap on him as a member of the Democratic ticket would ring hollow and hypocritical.<BR/><BR/>(7) If the Democratic Party leadership were to nullify our votes by giving Mrs. Clinton the nomination despite the popular vote, we call on all African-Americans to withdraw their support from the Democratic Party and to stay at home. We have survived eight years under President Bush, we will survive four years under a President McCain. We will NOT survive the nullification of our most hard-fought for right - our votes.<BR/><BR/>Pass it on...Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-11955699510173430682008-03-06T22:22:00.000-08:002008-03-06T22:22:00.000-08:00Dave, this thing is over. The math is relentless....Dave, this thing is over. The math is relentless. Check this analysis out that someone did at the Daily Kos. I checked it. It's all good.<BR/><BR/><I>"Here an analysis from the daily Kos:<BR/><BR/>"After today, there are 10 states left, plus Guam and Puerto Rico.<BR/><BR/>Number of 3 delegate districts left: 1<BR/>Number of 4 delegate districts left: 19 (including all 8 in Puerto Rico)<BR/>Number of 5 delegate districts left: 21<BR/>Number of 6 delegate districts left: 14<BR/>Number of 7 delegate districts left: 10<BR/>Number of 8 delegate districts left: 1<BR/>Number of 9 delegate districts left: 3<BR/>Number of 10 delegate districts left: 1 (Montana)<BR/><BR/>Setting aside Guam with its 4 delegates, there are 11 delegate apportionments based on statewide popular vote totals.<BR/><BR/>Wyoming - 5 statewide<BR/>South Dakota - 6 statewide<BR/>Montana - 6 statewide<BR/>West Virginia - 10 statewide<BR/>Mississippi - 11 statewide<BR/>Kentucky - 17 statewide<BR/>Oregon - 18 statewide<BR/>Puerto Rico - 19 islandwide<BR/>Indiana - 25 statewide<BR/>North Carolina - 38 statewide<BR/>Pennsylvania - 55 statewide<BR/><BR/>In order to cross all thresholds except the initial break that give you a +2 delegate swing, you need to win by an extra 200/X%, where X = the number of total delegates at stake. Let's see how this works by easy example - West Virginia and its 10 statewide delegates. 200/10 = 20%. To go from 5-5 to 6-4 there you have to win by over 10% (55-45). But to get ANOTHER +2 you need to add 20% to your win and win by 30% (65-35).<BR/><BR/>To work through one more example, Indiana and its 25. You start with someone winning 13-12. To get an additional +2 swing (ie, 14-11), you have to win by 200/25%, or 8% even. 54-46 + 1 vote is a 14-11 split. You can also calculate this way: 13.5/25 = .5400. 14.5/25 = .5800 (58-42 is a 16% win).<BR/><BR/>So, let's look at if Clinton wins every statewide total by 10%:<BR/><BR/>Wyoming +1<BR/>South Dakota 0<BR/>Montana 0<BR/>West Virginia +1, giving her the +1 vote benefit of the doubt.<BR/>Mississippi +1<BR/>Kentucky +1<BR/>Oregon +2<BR/>Puerto Rico +1<BR/>Indiana +3<BR/>North Carolina +4<BR/>Pennsylvania +5<BR/><BR/>Total +19 delegates.<BR/><BR/>Do you see how totally impossible it is, and how completely significant Obama's South Carolina and February blowouts were? Remember, Obama beat Clinton by 8% in Iowa (a huge win) and netted only 1 extra pledged delegate.<BR/><BR/>Now, let's assume, in a very unsurgical way, that this 10% is exactly the margin in all the congressional districts.<BR/><BR/>1 3-delegate district: +1<BR/>19 4-delegate districts: 0<BR/>21 5-delegate districts: +21<BR/>14 6-delegate districts: 0<BR/>10 7-delegate districts: +10<BR/>1 8-delegate district: 0<BR/>3 9-delegate districts: +3<BR/>1 10-delegate district: +1, let's give her the 1 extra vote benefit of the doubt.<BR/><BR/>Total +36 delegates<BR/><BR/>Overall total +55 delegates.<BR/><BR/>And it probably is +58, see below.<BR/><BR/>Obama currently leads by 160 pledged delegates.<BR/><BR/>Update [2008-3-4 18:22:15 by PocketNines]:: Let me throw in another wrinkle. Let's assume Clinton wins every single remaining district and statewide vote by 16.5% exactly. How does this help her in the districts?<BR/><BR/>1 3-delegate district: +1<BR/>19 4-delegate districts: 0<BR/>21 5-delegate districts: +21<BR/>14 6-delegate districts: 0<BR/>10 7-delegate districts: +10<BR/>1 8-delegate district: +1<BR/>3 9-delegate districts: +3<BR/>1 10-delegate district: +1<BR/><BR/>Total +37 delegates<BR/><BR/>ONE EXTRA DELEGATE from going 10% to 16.5%!<BR/><BR/>Statewide, 16.5%:<BR/><BR/>Wyoming +1<BR/>South Dakota 0<BR/>Montana 0<BR/>West Virginia +1<BR/>Mississippi +1<BR/>Kentucky +3<BR/>Oregon +2<BR/>Puerto Rico +3<BR/>Indiana +5<BR/>North Carolina +6<BR/>Pennsylvania +9<BR/><BR/>Total +31 delegates.<BR/><BR/>TWELVE (maybe six, see below) EXTRA DELEGATES from going 10% to 16.5%!<BR/><BR/>So the overall total with 16.5% is a mere +68 delegates.<BR/><BR/>And it probably is only +64, see below.<BR/><BR/>So with all due respect to Jonathan Alter and wmtriallawyer and all the people who are playing with these numbers, everyone seems to be failing to grasp that it's the BLOWOUTS that matter.<BR/><BR/>It's blowouts, people.<BR/><BR/>All but 6 remaining congressional districts are either 4, 5, 6, or 7 delegate districts. There are 64 total districts in this range. Here are the magic numbers:<BR/><BR/>4 delegates - 25%+ to get from 2-2 to 3-1<BR/>5 delegates - 40%+ to get from 3-2 to 4-1<BR/>6 delegates - 16.7%+ to get from 3-3 to 4-2<BR/>7 delegates - 28.6%+ to get from 4-3 to 5-2<BR/><BR/>THOSE are the relevant numbers to break out of the incredibly rosy +55 delegate pickup if we absurdly assume that Clinton wins every remaining contest by 55-45 margins.<BR/><BR/>And I humbly submit that if Clinton IS breaching those numbers and blowing out Obama in states where he will have ample opportunity to campaign, then he has been caught with a live boy or dead girl.<BR/><BR/>It is over.<BR/><BR/>[UPDATED] Here's another fun one, just to truly show how impossible this catching up notion is. I ran the numbers for winning all 82 races (70 CDs + Guam + the 11 statewide splits) by a whopping 24.9%. Her gain? Only 110 delegates. Obama still leads by 50.<BR/><BR/>Update [2008-3-5 2:2:37 by PocketNines]: John DE points out in the comments below the split of statewide popular votes between at-large delegates and PLEOs (pledged elected officials). I confess I am not 100% sure whether the statewide total is applied separately to each of these two categories, but just for the sake of more number crunching, here's the math. And SLKRR in the comments says this process of separate calculations is correct.<BR/><BR/>Each state is broken down like this for at-large, PLEO:<BR/>Wyoming - 5 (3, 2)<BR/>Mississippi - 11 (7, 4)<BR/>Pennsylvania - 55 (35, 20)<BR/>Indiana - 25 (16, 9)<BR/>North Carolina - 38 (26, 12)<BR/>West Virginia - 10 (7, 3)<BR/>Kentucky - 17 (11, 6)<BR/>Oregon -18 (12, 6)<BR/>Montana -6 (4, 2)<BR/>South Dakota - 6 (4, 2)<BR/>Puerto Rico -19 (12, 7)<BR/><BR/>Applying the 10% standard to each separate number:<BR/>Wyoming +1 no change<BR/>Mississippi +1 no change<BR/>Pennsylvania +5 no change<BR/>Indiana +3 no change<BR/>North Carolina +4 no change<BR/>West Virginia +2 change of +1<BR/>Kentucky +1 no change<BR/>Oregon +2 no change<BR/>Montana 0 no change<BR/>South Dakota 0 no change<BR/>Puerto Rico +3 change of +2<BR/><BR/>Total change +3 for Clinton, i.e., +22 instead of +19<BR/><BR/>BUT<BR/><BR/>Applying the 16.5% standard to each separate number:<BR/>Wyoming +1 no change<BR/>Mississippi +1 no change<BR/>Pennsylvania +9 no change<BR/>Indiana +3 change of -2<BR/>North Carolina +6 no change<BR/>West Virginia +1 no change<BR/>Kentucky +1 change of -2<BR/>Oregon +2 no change<BR/>Montana 0 no change<BR/>South Dakota 0 no change<BR/>Puerto Rico +3 no change<BR/><BR/>Total change -4 for for Clinton, i.e., +27 instead of +31"<BR/><BR/>As you can see, Clinton has no statistical chance whatsoever to win this thing. Her maneuvering is about something else."</I><BR/><BR/>Clinton is on some other shyt right now. She's trying to bogart her way into this thing by using all the code words that resonate with white America.<BR/><BR/>As far as Nulan is concerned, he's a stupid asshole and always will be. Especially for calling a black person, in good 'ole racist tradition, "monkey" and "ape". However, if he has some sense left he ought to join this. I did leave the same post on his site.Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-62498402832708027612008-03-06T21:58:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:58:00.000-08:00Lisa G: You slipped that one in on me before I pul...Lisa G: You slipped that one in on me before I pulled the trigger on my last comment.<BR/><BR/>My ^ was aimed at Fisher. Sorry it got pointed at you.<BR/><BR/>And thanks for cracking me up. Tampon jokes always work.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-14883473937536600902008-03-06T21:53:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:53:00.000-08:00^ Talk about off-topic. But I ain't mad.You're thi...^ Talk about off-topic. But I ain't mad.<BR/><BR/>You're thinking right, Michael. But this thing is complicated by a couple of factors:<BR/><BR/>1. The Democratic voters have <EM>not</EM> spoken yet. There's more primaries and caucuses to go. Seems like you're trying to declare victory at half-time.<BR/><BR/>2. The racism charge is unsubstantiated... and, at this juncture, would do more harm than good. Yes, her campaign is trying to destroy Obama... just like they'd be trying to destroy John Edwards if he were the one in front. But the bases of her attacks -- for the past week, anyway -- are legitimate. Is he experienced enough? Is he too young and untested to be entrusted with the most powerful job in the free world?<BR/><BR/>Obama decided to run for president at 46. Gotta expect to be challenged on that.<BR/><BR/>Plus, you gotta expect to campaign tough and overcome adversity... no whining to the refs.<BR/><BR/><EM>Now</EM>... we should all be ready to pounce if Team Clinton does go into the race bag... like Bill was doing in South Carolina before they slapped a muzzle on him.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, have you squashed your bullshit with Nulan? Now's the time. Because he's all about tactical response.Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-48585687788331058982008-03-06T21:43:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:43:00.000-08:00I hope Simon has a better single in mind to launch...I hope Simon has a better single in mind to launch the New Mariah's debut in the US. "Bleeding Love" sounds like the track to a tampon commercial.Lisa Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256861943989992018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-76562494402028076982008-03-06T21:16:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:16:00.000-08:00On another note...I think it is time to gather all...On another note...<BR/><BR/>I think it is time to gather all the black bloggers around a statement. Namely this:<BR/><BR/>(1) The Democratic party base has spoken. The numbers show that Mrs. Clinton has lost this race for the nomination.<BR/><BR/>(2) Mrs. Clinton's increasingly shrill attacks against Mr. Obama has taken on the airs of racism.<BR/><BR/>(3) That is regrettable because via the candidacy of Mr. Obama for the first time in the electoral history of this nation, the vast majority of African-American stand united with untold millions of white Americans and Americans of all colors.<BR/><BR/>(4) It appears that Mrs. Clinton is about to shatter this historic unity.<BR/><BR/>(5) We therefore call on Mrs. Clinton to face the reality of the numbers, concede defeat and thereby heal this wound which she has opened and continues to widen.<BR/><BR/>(6) It is clear that Mrs. Clinton can not be considered for the Vice-Presidential slot on the Democratic ticket. Mrs. Clinton has denigrated Mr. Obama to the point that any possible praise she would heap on him as a member of the Democartic ticket would ring hollow and hypocritical.<BR/><BR/>(7) If the Democratic Party leadership were to nullify our votes by giving Mrs. Clinton the nomination despite the popular vote, we call on all African-Americans to withdraw their support from the Democratic Party and to stay at home. e have survived eight years under President Bush, we will survive four years under a President McCain. We will NOT survive the nullification of our most hard-fought for right - our votes.Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542253904917878025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-58346018692603785902008-03-06T20:43:00.000-08:002008-03-06T20:43:00.000-08:00Fisher, if you just ... don't ... like ... the wor...Fisher, if you just ... don't ... like ... the word Mulatto, it's all good. While the term is archaic, no doubt, here it was used in prose and with accuracy.<BR/><BR/>But as for these comments from the judges like "as good as" and "one of the best" renditions of the tune, those Brits have gone wacky! She's not bad, but that kid ain't worthy of carrying Whitney's luggage!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-29271019495691731752008-03-06T19:13:00.000-08:002008-03-06T19:13:00.000-08:00Mulatto is just another word for Nigger. The use ...Mulatto is just another word for Nigger. The use of it serves the same purpose.Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660845698915286588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-64638903839666458302008-03-06T19:08:00.000-08:002008-03-06T19:08:00.000-08:00^ Got it. But these folks don't seem to mind the w...^ Got it. But <A HREF="http://www.mulatto.org/" REL="nofollow">these folks</A> don't seem to mind the word "mulatto."<BR/><BR/>My granddad was officially classified as "mulatto" by the U.S. census. It's just a word.<BR/><BR/>And, in the right context, a funny one.<BR/><BR/>August Darnell, a.k.a. Kid Creole, used to say he made "mulatto music."Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-17795237127148042362008-03-06T19:04:00.000-08:002008-03-06T19:04:00.000-08:00Mills..."Define 'black.'"A Victim of Racism, a/k/a...Mills...<BR/><BR/><I>"Define 'black.'"</I><BR/><BR/>A Victim of Racism, a/k/a a non-white person.Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660845698915286588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-4521404985707886692008-03-06T19:01:00.000-08:002008-03-06T19:01:00.000-08:00^ Define "black."^ Define "black."Undercover Black Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08704721024820668555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486244714643027014.post-18182125091973881322008-03-06T18:45:00.000-08:002008-03-06T18:45:00.000-08:00I think the term "Mulatto" is despicable. Or do yo...I think the term "Mulatto" is despicable. Or do you see yourself as a Mule? <BR/><BR/>Black is black, David.Michael Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660845698915286588noreply@blogger.com